Mar 14 2008
Thoughts on the primary
As the democratic primary continues, I hate Clinton more and more. Sure, I’m a Barack fan…but before the primary I would have voted for either Barack or Hillary - as long as you have a democrat in the white house, no difference to me.
But Hillary’s campaign has exposed her as a really dirty player that’s cocky, spiteful and unable to accept reality.
The latest incident came when Geraldine Ferraro, a member of Clinton’s finance committee commented that Obama is in position now because he is black. First of all, this is a ludicrous comment. When has being black ever been an advantage outside of professional sports (except hockey) and hip hop?
Second, it’s a pathetic attempt by the Clinton campaign to create some negative buzz against Obama…attacking, I guess, his credibility.
Now some may say that Ferraro was speaking for herself, but really, when does a high ranking member of a campaign ever speak for herself…especially during the primary?
Even when Ferraro quit, she tried to blame the Obama camp for her departure. Why not just apologize? The arrogance of the Clinton camp has really pushed me towards Obama, or McCain. There is no way I’ll vote for Clinton.
And that’s sad, because I’m sure some Clinton supporters feel the same way about Obama…and that just means there will be a republican in office.
At this point, I don’t even care very much either. I mean, democrats are big on health care, and that doesn’t really make a difference to me.
Why do I have to pay more taxes for people that can’t afford their own health care? I don’t know them and I don’t really care if they aren’t covered. Why can’t they get jobs that provide health care?
I mean, sure, you’ll watch a Michael Moore movie that gives you the worst case scenario of some hard working guy that has a horrible injury and can’t afford to fix it.
But those people are in the minority. My guess is that the biggest suck on public services are the people on welfare who beg borrow and steal from the government so they don’t have to get a real job.
Instead of just having money taken out of our paychecks, each person with a certain amount of income should get a list of like 100 people that need healthcare. Then, we can look at these people’s situations, and mark down either ‘get a fucking job’ or ‘give this person healthcare.’ And we pay for the people that we mark as give healthcare, while the others don’t get shit.
And don’t get fooled by the woman that has like 10 kids to raise by herself. It’s called a fucking condom. No condom? It’s called a fucking clothes hanger.
What this situation does not entail is me paying for all of your illegitimate kids.
Of course you get the religious argument here…these people don’t use condoms or birth control and can’t have abortions because of their religion. Fine. Don’t use condoms and have all the fucking kids you want.
But get this…my religion says I shouldn’t have to give shit to some fucking moron that spits out 10 kids with a $20,000 a year salary. So if your kids need health care, go to your god that told you not to use a condom or have an abortion and ask him for a doctor.
See, I should be president.
What else?
Well, sure, the whole republican idea about Pro-Life is scary…but even if abortions are banned I’ll just use all the money I saved from paying for someone else’s healthcare and take the girls I get preggers to Mexico.
The only big issue I’m really against is the war. I don’t care what these arabs do in the middle east, and frankly I don’t give a shit about Israel.
What I do care about is gas approaching $4 a gallon. Now, if McCain is going to be in the middle east for 100 years, this should mean cheap gas for 100 years. Everyone following me?
Let’s not do this occupy-country-and-try-to-build-a-democracy thing. Who cares if they have a fucking democracy? Did you hear that they get 70+ virgins when they die? Virgins! Now if you have an eternity with 70 Hanna Montana’s lined up, would you really care what political system your government used? Would you fight for some foreign American ‘democracy’ that will mostly likely be worse than living under a dictator?
They can rule their country by capture-the-flag for all I care, as long as we secure a steady, cheap supply of oil for a long, long time.
So, when you go to the polls, if you have not already, keep this in mind.
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Please don’t write about politics, foreign policy and the like! Write about stuff you know something about, like Las Vegas, technology or The Wire. Or, if you feel you must, get a subscription to the Economist, read it for a year, then resume editorializing.
hunter s japadamus. Me thinks jack will be commenting soon
See El Jeffe…this is a typical liberal problem: you can’t overcome your arrogance.
It’s easy to dismiss the opinions of others because they don’t have the same level of education or reading habits as yourself. Pro War - that’s just dumb, why even argue about it? Pro life? You’re a crazy religious nut. You wanna own a gun? Clearly you’re a hillbilly whose opinion doesn’t matter.
There are a couple problems with this though…fact is, most people don’t read the economist…most people aren’t as educated as yourself. To dismiss their opinion is to lose the majority. And I don’t need to read the Economist to know that the majority is what wins elections.
Instead of dismissing the ideas of commonfolk like myself, why don’t you stoop down to our level for a second and try to create an argument that is palatable and convincing to people of our intelligence. Sure, we don’t have law degrees, but if you keep your words to six letters or less I’m sure well be able to follow along.
I bet you’re one of those liberals that blames everyone else for the world’s problems. Funny thing is though, it’s the arrogance of people like you that leads the country to the lowest common denominator. And when that common denominator happens to be a Bush or Cheney you bitch and moan, never realizing that you created this shit to begin with. Liberals never realize that it’s not right or wrong that matters, it’s who wins.
Lets start with this: why don’t you formulate your own opinion that doesn’t include criticizing the reading habits of others. After I rip that to shreds, then I’ll tell you how to prepare for eight years of McCain and 100 years in Iraq.
Nope. Sorry, Japa. I’ve known lots of people you would probably catagorize as hicks and rednecks. Still, they sounded far less ignorant — and arrogant — than you. You aren’t conservative or liberal: you just want to say dumbass shit to get people riled up. What’s the point in trying to engage in dialogue with someone who thinks poor, single pregnant women should perform abortions on themselves with coat-hangers? I mean, do you really think that? Really?
Please, don’t give me that ‘common folk’ shit, like you make ends meet swinging a hammer. You went to a prep school, for Christ’s sake. Then you went to a private college. Then you got a white collar job. You are as far from ‘common folk’ as I am.
I was trying to be nice to you in my first post, but I guess you want my unvarnished opinion. Your politics, to the extent you actually believe what you wrote, are arrogant, nihilistic, uninformed and armoral.
Oh, and the Economist is center-right, not liberal.
“dumbass…arrogant, nihilistic, uninformed and amoral”…lots of accusations there, but where’s your evidence? It seems to me that you’re still as dismissive as you were before…and still haven’t been able to put together a coherent argument.
Really the only point you make is that you don’t want to engage in dialogue with someone who thinks that “poor, single pregnant women should perform abortions on themselves with clothes hangers.” First of all, I didn’t say this at all - it’s taken entirely out of context. If my arguments were so poor, you should be able to counter them easily, rather than manipulating my words into a statement that makes your position easier to defend.
If you look at the post, my point is that women have choices - birth control or abortions. This is their choice, whether they’re poor or wealthy. But if they make a choice to have kids, even if they can’t afford it, then I don’t think I should be forced to provide care for these kids or the woman.
Maybe you want to support every sob story out there. And that’s fine, I’m not going to judge that and I’m not going to dismiss that as uneducated.
But I don’t feel that way. I don’t want my money to go to support someone that is living outside of their means. Isn’t that my right?
And again, you miss my point about ‘commonfolk.’ According to your comments, I shouldn’t be able to voice my own opinion unless I read the Economist for a year. I’m not saying I swing a hammer, but apparently by your high standards I am not well read enough, regardless of my private school education, to comment about politics on my OWN blog.
And don’t do me the the favor of trying to be nice. Based on your arguments so far, it seems like you’re a typical liberal with an agenda that cannot accommodate for differing opinions. Just like a bible thumper, you dismiss other ideas as “arrogant, nihilistic, uninformed and amoral” while feeling that your ideals are so superior that they don’t require justification or debate. That’s why the heart of your primary arguments so far have been nothing but a few adjectives.
As much as I would love to interject on policy debate the venom here is just too amusing. I’ll say something to spark it back up once it seems to have died down a bit.
Sigh. I lasted almost 20 minutes.
I went to LAW SCHOOL (like Jeffar) with a bunch of PUNAHOU grads (like Japa).
I can assure you graduation from NEITHER necessarily qualifies an individual as “educated” (particularly if you went to Punahou, seriously, “Oh, I never realized General Robert E. Lee wasn’t Korean!”) or “intelligent” (particularly if you went to law school . . . you’d have to know Sonny Ganaden to understand).
Thinking that reading the Economist makes you qualified to comment on anything makes you a pompous dickhole. I know lots of people who like to point out they read Nietzsche too. Few can demonstrate they actually understand it.
Japa may be a crass douchebag, but why would you expect anything else at this point? Hyperbole is, whether intended or not, an extremely useful tool, particularly for targeting extremist thought. Notice that underlying his “arguments” are a core sense of personal responsibility and individual choice that is noticably lacking in the discourse between people who identify themselves with one of the political street-gangs.
Holy shit, I just complimented Japa . . .
I feel funny.
If you let any reason, and I mean any, influence your vote other than your personal perception of each candidate’s candor, intellect, and integrity, you are a fucking lemming. And you deserve another Bush.
Of all elections, this one is not about experience. It is not about Democrat or Republican. It’s about the individual who can earn back the trust that has been lost (from both the citizens and our foreign allies and enemies) and undo the damage that Bush has caused.
That is NOT synonymous with undoing the things Bush did, but in solving the repercussions of Bush’s retarded decisions. Who do I trust to tell me the truth about our situation, and to deal with the consequences of Bush with both skill and honor?
It ain’t Hillary, that’s for damn sure.
First interesting comment debate in MONTHS and my post killed it?
That hurts. That really hurts.
Clearly Jak, you don’t have the literary background to justify a response from El Jeffe.
You want debate:
Scarlett Johanssen’s thighs are too big.
Discuss.
Their size only makes them more delicious.
Oh, and fuck you, Jeffar! I’ve read “Discipline and Punish: The Birth of the Prison.”
Foucault qualifies me to be a know-it-all about EVERYTHING. You know, since it’s all embedded in a web of meaning anyway, and you can’t really know anything.
Look, I am certain that Johanssen’s thighs will slowly spiral out of control. It’ll start with a little giggle here and there, but once she gets hitched and is sitting on her millions she’ll blow up like britney.
On another note, I was searching through the economist archives today and it turns out el jeffe was right. They do NOT recommend that poor single mothers use a clothes hanger to perform abortions. My bad.
Who is “Jakgrabit” and why is he/she using my name to attempt to prove a point. I thought I would google myself for once to see what possible future employers are capable of seeing.
I can’t wait to find out.
-Sonny Ganaden
Hey, Sonny! Good to hear from you! Created a new post to welcome you to our site!
Just to warn you though, every post makes you fair game for a response.
Also, if you want to contribute to our discussions, pick a pen name and I’ll go back and edit your real name out of all the posts and replace it with your handle.
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